Tail Docking?

We recently got a Jack Russell Terrier from our neighbors, who could no longer care for her. They didn't, however, tell us that she was pregnant. Tali, as we've named her, is due in about a week. Research and vet visits have well prepared us for the birth (we've already made plans to have her spayed as soon as possible, and have found loving homes for the pups, all with family members). But, I'm curious about tail docking. Tali does have her tail done, herself. Are there negative effects? Is is purely cosmetic? When do we have the vet do it, if we decide to? To aproach your vet, do you simply ask for it?

Tail docking is illegal in australiaTail docking is painful & unneccessary operation

The basic nervous system of a dog is fully developed at birth and the available evidence indicates that puppies have similar, if not increased, sensitivity to pain as adult dogs. Docking a puppy's tail involves cutting through muscles, tendons, up to seven pairs of highly sensitive nerves and severing bone and cartilage connections. Tail docking is usually carried out without any anaesthesia. Puppies give repeated intense shrieking vocalisations the moment the tail is cut off and during stitching of the wound, indicating that they experience substantial pain. Inflammation and damage to the tissues also cause ongoing pain while the wound heals.

Cosmetic tail docking has also been banned in a number of countries including Sweden, Norway, the Netherlands, Finland, Germany and Denmark. Several other European countries including Cyprus, Greece, Luxembourg, Switzerland, and Austria have also ratified a European Convention that prohibits the cosmetic docking of tails.

If you must get it done-get a vet to do it underneath anisetic

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  • Tom H

    Ask yourself, how would you like to have your pinky amputated to suit fashion?
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  • babsie b

    Yes its cosmetic. Sometimes necessary for Show.

    Talk to the vet before they are born as the tail docking is done within a few days after birth.

    Its easier to dock for a pup than to do major surgery when the dog is older.
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  • Nekkid Dog ©

    it is for cosmetic purposes only. Odds are these pups may not be purebred, if they are, you probably wont be able to get papers for them either.

    Some breeds are preferred to have their tails docked in the show ring.. however if these pups are not purebred, or unregistered, they are not going to be shown anyways.. just someone's happy little pet.

    There is absolultly no reason to dock their tails. They will make great pets with or without their tails. Why remove the tails just because mom doesnt have one? It is painful, and there's always a risk of infection or complications.

    If you still plan on doing it tho, you need to find an experienced vet who knows how to do it properly. It is also suppossed to be done within the first few days.
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  • deltadawn

    Since the pups are going to be of mixed breed(s), I gather,.. then it's purely cosmetic.
    Dewclaws and tail docking are usually done @ 3 days old at vets (I worked as vet assist. years ago)/
    The wee pups do let out a little squeal at the snip, I would advise just to let the puppies be "natural" and just hope all are healthy.
    Gd. luck.
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  • a gal and her dog

    If I were in your position, I don't think I'd dock the tails. It originally served various purposes, but at this point it's cosmetic. It's also a hot-button issue with lots of people.

    It's really up to you. Please continue to be as responsible as you say you have been! I'm glad to hear it!
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  • judith l

    absolutely no reason whatsoever to dock a pups tail, it's cruel and barbaric.
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  • Pit Bully Love

    It is cosmetic, but it is also breed standard.

    Is this dog papered? Registered?

    If you don't plan on making a profit off these pups, I say don't do it.

    If you DO decide to do it, you do it within the first couple days of birth.

    Yes, you would ask your Vet ahead of time to have it done if you choose to do so.

    Unless you're planning on doing hunting of small game with these pups, I say let them keep their tails! :)
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  • Penny

    Was she bred with another Jack Russell? Maybe the breed of the father isn't one that is docked. I'd leave them alone. It's unnecessary and cosmetic. Why put the pup thru it if you don't have to… YOu can ask your vet's opinion and timing if you still want to go thru with it.
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  • ? DP

    Tails are done at 2-3 days of age. You call your vet and tell him you have tails to be docked. You should check your standard ( in case the vet isn't familiar ) and find out where the tails need to be docked. Nothing negative about it.. Tails are better docked at 2 -3 days of age than amputated at a later age, if the dog should break their tail or injure it somehow.

    And don't let people worry you, The tails being docked are NOTHING at all like people having their body parts cut off.. The argument is ridiculous.
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  • fauxymynx

    Purely cosmetic. It's typically done when the puppies are just days old.

    Docking is by no means beneficial to the pet unless in a show environment.

    It's a touchy subject, kinda depends on where you sit on the fence. Some doctors are for it, some against. I work for a vet, most of our doctors refuse to dock tails or crop ears, being it's purely cosmetic.

    I think if the pet was born with it and it is no hindrance to the pet, why change it? I understand amputating if the pet is having problems, but if it isn't, then it should be considered perfect just the way it is.

    Talk to your vet and see if they can help you make the decision…"to dock or not to dock."

    Good luck with the new additions!
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    Experience, I work for a vet.

  • Iggy Schnauzer Demon

    If older dog, no don't do it, is too painful, she has lived this long without it being done….the cartilage is already full grown in her tail, and it will so painful to have it done,

    why, it would be like sitting you down, numbing your hand cutting off your fingers, when the numbness wears off, it will hurt like He–…this will be worse for her….don't do it.

    now the pups, tails should be done by 3 days old, no cartilage in their tail to have feeling at this point, take them to the vet and let the vet do it, if you do it and it is done wrong, the pups will bleed to death…..take to the vet

    the mom, let her have a long tail, she does not need docking now…it is for shows dogs that we dock tails, not the pets, it is purely for looks and standards, but is not necessary for a family pet….let her keep it, and she will let you keep your fingers as well, ha ha, that's a joke.

    and bless you for taking her in…she will return the love a million times over…..

    Breeder 15 yrs, don't dock her tail…is not a show dog..
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  • Gallifrey

    It's not a medical procedure, it's just cutting off a dog's tail so it looks better. It has been compared to circumsizing though, in the way that it only hurts for a second and they won't remember it. I personally don't like the idea.
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  • Sasha

    Unless you are considering showing a dog and that breed requires tail docking for the ring or if your dog has a lot of hair that traps waste against the skin, docking is for cosmetic reasons only. I would hate to think that people still dock tails and crop ears in order to make them look like a photo of some famous dog! Why in the world would you want to do cosmetic surgery on an animal for you OWN viewing pleasure?
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  • Guzadog

    It's a painful thing to do to an animal for cosmetic purposes.
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  • ara

    For PETS no.
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  • Delilah

    Tail docking anymore, is mostly cosmetic and tradition. It is usually done at 2-3 days of age. The only negative effect would be if your veterinarian is unsure of the procedure. And yes just ask if they do the procedure or someone else they would recommend. If the puppies are not going to be registered and show quality you probably won't want to have this done.
    Hope this helps
    Good luck
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  • Krystal-Elise S

    Tail docking is illegal in australiaTail docking is painful & unneccessary operation

    The basic nervous system of a dog is fully developed at birth and the available evidence indicates that puppies have similar, if not increased, sensitivity to pain as adult dogs. Docking a puppy's tail involves cutting through muscles, tendons, up to seven pairs of highly sensitive nerves and severing bone and cartilage connections. Tail docking is usually carried out without any anaesthesia. Puppies give repeated intense shrieking vocalisations the moment the tail is cut off and during stitching of the wound, indicating that they experience substantial pain. Inflammation and damage to the tissues also cause ongoing pain while the wound heals.

    Cosmetic tail docking has also been banned in a number of countries including Sweden, Norway, the Netherlands, Finland, Germany and Denmark. Several other European countries including Cyprus, Greece, Luxembourg, Switzerland, and Austria have also ratified a European Convention that prohibits the cosmetic docking of tails.

    If you must get it done-get a vet to do it underneath anisetic
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  • durdenslabs

    It's a purely cosmetic thing nowadays. In the past it was done to prevent the dog from injuries in the field (going to ground) while hunting. It may still be required for shows, but it doesn't have to…or need to…be done at all.

    If you decide to get it done, simply bring the pups in and say "I'd like their tails docked". He'll ask you about the length and you tell him "Standard JRT dock, please." He should know what to do then. Otherwise, let them live their lives with their tails intact because it's a useless, senseless procedure…especially if they are just pet pups.
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  • RoVale

    Did you know that a part of the dog's spine is being cut off when its tail is docked?
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